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Belonging to a church heavily into theology I see the danger. But we are also encouraged that KNOWING God is knowing about Him which leads to loving Him and worshiping Him, serving Him,obeying Him and telling others about Him and what He has done through His Son Jesus. How can we love, worship,serve, obey and wittness about someone we don’t KNOW much about?
I had a very difficult time to listen to this fellow, looking at the hard liquor bottles behind him
As a Christian, I don’t believe we should drink or give the impression that it’s ok to do it
Martha
Are you sure those are hard liquor bottles behind him? Assumptions/accusations can be very harmful to the body of Christ. Be careful! Revelation 12:10, James 1:19
Why shouldn’t Christian drink? Just ask yourself do I honor Christ more if I drink or not. We are to love our brothers and sisters in Christ. We all know some have problems with alcohol and I will not do anything that might offend or hurt them.
So I think its a matter of dening self for the sake of helping weaker brother or sister.
‘Just ask yourself do I honor Christ more if I drink or not’
In the privacy of my own home, or in moderation with the guys from work, I don’t think it makes much difference
I can understand not wanting to drink alcohol in a situation which might cause harm to someone, or getting drunk, but I don’t think the bible says ‘don’t drink alcohol’
I think saying Christians shouldn’t drink is trying to add something to the bible which just isn’t there.
1. Those are coffee syrups. I worked at Starbucks for years. No doubt about it. Coffee syrups.
2. It’s important that we don’t make rules that the Bible does not. That’s when you get into radical fundamentalism. Jesus turned water into wine as his first miracle!
3. I don’t drink by choice. However, I do not believe it is a sin to, and I don’t want to be accursed for adding to the Bible and saying that it is sin. Nobody should.
While this blog was not intended to debate if Christians should drink or not I am a little grieved by your response.
The verse you referenced clearly shows the context. Timothy had physical infirmities in which wine would act as a medicine.
We must be careful not to take scriptures out of their context in order the justify our actions.
Look brother, to be honest I don’t see it to be wise for a Christian to drink (for many reasons that I don’t see a need to get into detail here), but I also see that the Bible does not condemn a Christian who does drink occasionally in moderation. All I am saying is that if you are going to drink alcohol here and there, please don’t use that verse to justify you drinking.
Yes, I’m sorry for diverting this post, but I wanted to respond to the idea that it is wrong for Christians to drink when it doesn’t say that in the bible.
Perhaps I have taken the Timothy verse out of context, although I do not know of any medical condition where drinking wine is a recommended treatment.
I don’t think drinking alcohol needs to be justified. I see nothing against it in the bible (apart from the two cases I mentioned earlier)
The fact that the bible says we shouldn’t get drunk, rather than we shouldn’t drink would suggest to me that drinking is ok (Along with Pauls words to Timothy and Jesus’ first miracle)
I wonder if Jesus drank wine?
Thank you, Chris, for that, really well explained. My own issue with theology, esp theological colleges is that many times they study what other men say about God, rather than rightly dividing the Word and seeing what God says about Himself, and that can lead to a lot of confusion, but as you say, there is absolutely nothing wrong with theology when it’s actually God we’re studying!
I’m loving this blueletterbible, it’s a fantastic resource for studying the Word. Thank you xx
Diane says
March 10, 2011 at 1:22 pmBelonging to a church heavily into theology I see the danger. But we are also encouraged that KNOWING God is knowing about Him which leads to loving Him and worshiping Him, serving Him,obeying Him and telling others about Him and what He has done through His Son Jesus. How can we love, worship,serve, obey and wittness about someone we don’t KNOW much about?
Martha Tata Allen says
March 11, 2011 at 6:22 amI had a very difficult time to listen to this fellow, looking at the hard liquor bottles behind him
As a Christian, I don’t believe we should drink or give the impression that it’s ok to do it
Martha
Jeremy Morris says
March 11, 2011 at 12:55 pmMartha,
Are you sure those are hard liquor bottles behind him? Assumptions/accusations can be very harmful to the body of Christ. Be careful! Revelation 12:10, James 1:19
Carlos says
March 11, 2011 at 1:03 pmI was going to ask the same question…
I’m pretty sure they’re coffee syrups!
Credo House is a coffee shop too.
Here is their website:
http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/okc/
FrinkTheBrave says
March 11, 2011 at 1:31 pmThe apostle Paul thought wine was ok (1 Timothy 5:23) Why do you say Christians shouldn’t drink [alcohol]
Jreed says
March 11, 2011 at 1:49 pmWhy shouldn’t Christian drink? Just ask yourself do I honor Christ more if I drink or not. We are to love our brothers and sisters in Christ. We all know some have problems with alcohol and I will not do anything that might offend or hurt them.
So I think its a matter of dening self for the sake of helping weaker brother or sister.
FrinkTheBrave says
March 11, 2011 at 2:16 pm‘Just ask yourself do I honor Christ more if I drink or not’
In the privacy of my own home, or in moderation with the guys from work, I don’t think it makes much difference
I can understand not wanting to drink alcohol in a situation which might cause harm to someone, or getting drunk, but I don’t think the bible says ‘don’t drink alcohol’
I think saying Christians shouldn’t drink is trying to add something to the bible which just isn’t there.
Karen Smith says
March 13, 2011 at 3:16 am1. Those are coffee syrups. I worked at Starbucks for years. No doubt about it. Coffee syrups.
2. It’s important that we don’t make rules that the Bible does not. That’s when you get into radical fundamentalism. Jesus turned water into wine as his first miracle!
3. I don’t drink by choice. However, I do not believe it is a sin to, and I don’t want to be accursed for adding to the Bible and saying that it is sin. Nobody should.
Jeremy Morris says
March 14, 2011 at 5:30 amFrinkTheBrave,
While this blog was not intended to debate if Christians should drink or not I am a little grieved by your response.
The verse you referenced clearly shows the context. Timothy had physical infirmities in which wine would act as a medicine.
We must be careful not to take scriptures out of their context in order the justify our actions.
Look brother, to be honest I don’t see it to be wise for a Christian to drink (for many reasons that I don’t see a need to get into detail here), but I also see that the Bible does not condemn a Christian who does drink occasionally in moderation. All I am saying is that if you are going to drink alcohol here and there, please don’t use that verse to justify you drinking.
FrinkTheBrave says
March 14, 2011 at 10:39 amYes, I’m sorry for diverting this post, but I wanted to respond to the idea that it is wrong for Christians to drink when it doesn’t say that in the bible.
Perhaps I have taken the Timothy verse out of context, although I do not know of any medical condition where drinking wine is a recommended treatment.
I don’t think drinking alcohol needs to be justified. I see nothing against it in the bible (apart from the two cases I mentioned earlier)
The fact that the bible says we shouldn’t get drunk, rather than we shouldn’t drink would suggest to me that drinking is ok (Along with Pauls words to Timothy and Jesus’ first miracle)
I wonder if Jesus drank wine?
Reba says
March 15, 2011 at 4:34 amAll things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. I Cor 10:23
Nunsy says
March 14, 2011 at 9:48 amThank you, Chris, for that, really well explained. My own issue with theology, esp theological colleges is that many times they study what other men say about God, rather than rightly dividing the Word and seeing what God says about Himself, and that can lead to a lot of confusion, but as you say, there is absolutely nothing wrong with theology when it’s actually God we’re studying!
I’m loving this blueletterbible, it’s a fantastic resource for studying the Word. Thank you xx
joey says
August 2, 2011 at 12:52 pmhey guys ya’ll replyed in march come on it’s may now